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I never heard this. I love Pantene. And I’m sure most of my hair products contain silicone. Esp frizz ease.

sulfur is bad, but i dunno about silicon. Pantene is really great, though.

Silicone itself isn’t bad for your hair. The problem is that if you use silicone shampoos or conditioners  a lot they will eventually weigh your hair down and make your hair look flat and greasy. If you’re intent on using silicone products try to use a clarifying shampoo once a week to cut down on the amount of silicone that stays in your hair after washing.

I think silicones clog your hair up, and if you don’t use a sulfate shampoo, which is pretty harsh, they don’t come out and it makes your hair look bad.

It’s because they can cause build up, but I’ve never had a problem with it.

Like others said you have to use a harsh shampoo to get the silicon out which is bad for your hair, and the silicon hides any damage that is being done to your hair.  Don’t know if it still has it but Panteen used to have a wax in it that was the same wax used in floor wax.

I’ve heard that silicone based products put a bandaid on the hair shaft instead of truly fixing the problem… if that makes sense. Your hair will always look and feel AMAZING with silicone products, so it might be hard to tell what your hair really needs….

i think theres always a reason why countries would ban certain products.. i mean.. they’re not stupid or anything…

i love the smell of pantene…. and i hate the fact that its too strong for my hair.. and… with my friends… its a lil strong for quite a few of us…

my hairdresser told me to switch hair products every month so the next shampoo and wash out residue from the first one =] don really no if its working but its good to listen to professionals ~

That’s a new one to me. I’ve been using bath and bodyworks shampoo and conditioner…it has castor oil in it, and that doesn’t make me happy. I got this stuff as a gift.

Not all silicones are bad. As long as the product contains a water based silicone you’ll be fine. The non-water based silicones will only wash out with a sulfate based shampoo which will strip your hair of all of its natural oils. Silicones provide a temporary solution to your current hair problems making your hair look and feel smother, silkier and fuller. The problem is that none of it is permanent change. The people who notice it most are those with curly hair. Thats why I don’t use shampoo at all. I just wash with conditioner and it works just as well.

Silcone I know is bad for curly hair because it coats it and drys it out. It doesn’t really make your hair smoother or softer it just kind of coats it. Plus the coating builds up. So it weighs it down

So yea it feels thicker at first, cause you just left a whole bunch of junk on your hair that you’ll have a hard time washing of but it’ll suck in the long run 

All I’ve heard is that people need to switch shampoos and conditioners every few months anyway, regardless of what kind it is.

Pantene has had a bad reputation for at least 10 years, since I was in middle school.  I never understood why; everybody just always told me that it was bad for people’s hair.

the silicone makes my hair way too thick and greasy. :\

It’ll also dry out your hair in the long run since silicone just coats your hair and makes it look healthy without actually making it healthy. Your hair isn’t really moisturized. Plus the extra coating makes it harder for your hair to actually absorb any moisture 

My brother did some presentation that Herbal Esscences had stuff in it that was going to give me cancer. 

Uhm…oh well?

I makes a coating on the hair, kind of like wax and it makes it soft and shiny for awhile but then it builds up and leaves it limp and greasy looking.

sooo any recommendations on shampoos then? average priced ones?

I looove shampoos and conditioners with mint or tea tree, it makes my scalp tingle and feel amazing!

it’s not really bad for your hair, it just puts a waxy build-up on it.  If you use a clarifying shampoo once a week, that will take the build-up off anyway, so you can use the silicone shampoos if you really want to.
shampoos with sulfate are bad for your hair if you color it.  They strip the color out.  Any shampoo that says it’s color-safe should be sulfate-free.

Wow, I’ve actually never heard this. I only used Pantene for a couple months though and stopped because my mom complained that I was shedding hair around the house a lot more than usual.

Silicone? I never knew about this o_o.

i have no idea…. 

The problem is that silicones and wax in most shampoos/conditioners build up, and can cause problems in the long run. I actually had a lot of really bad fallout (I was losing so much hair) because of the buildup. The other thing is that while certain ingredients like that make your hair LOOK good, they aren’t really making it healthy or doing anything in terms of preventing breakage.

Sulfate shampoos on the other hand strip your hair badly. They’re good for clarifying and getting rid of the buildup, but they also strip hairdye and natural oils that your hair needs.

@MochaSprinkle@xanga - isnt that good tho?
i mean,, if there are issues with your hair, its not like you can really do anything more but to cut it.. so if you wanted to keep your hair long cant you just coat it with silicon so it still looks nice..? LOL. just wondering..

i never even heard of this until now…

I don’t know, but I do like Pantene Pro V. It made my hair look pretty.

xo

I saw someone mention the WAX. That is actually the biggest problem with panteen. It coats your hair with wax, and if you go to color it, the color can’t penetrate your hair and won’t last nearly as long. It also dries out your hair and while it might make your hair look healthy for a while, in the long run it is one of the worst products you can use.

If you’re looking for smooth, i reccomend Super Skinny by Paul Mitchel. My fav.

@jms2508@xanga - in all honesty, go for the brands like redkin and paul mitchel and pick them up at JC Penny salons. They have them on sale for buy one get one 88 cents starting tomorrow.

Every time someone has posted shit about shampoo or whatever, Pantene gets mentioned negatively. It’s part of the reason I switched shampoos (Suave Coconut) 

@mywordsx@xanga - neither did i. 

It’s not going to cover your hair in plastic, wax, or leave a build-up if you wash it all out.  Read the ingredients list.  Salon owners and stylists tell people that because it’s what they’re told by sales representatives for the products in their salons.  If you compare the ingredients list from a salon shampoo and a bottle of pantene, you’ll see that they’re made from the same basic ingredients.  They’ll have different names, but they’ll both consist of fatty alcohols, conditioning ingredients, and silicones, lots and lots of shampoos/conditioners contain silicones.  It protects your hair from heat styling products.  Any sort of silkening formula will have them too.  

@The_Tudor_Rose@xanga - Water (Aqua), Sodium Myreth Sulfate, Cocamide MEA, Cocamidopropyl
Betaine, Sodium Lauroyl Sarcosinate, Isoceteth 20, Cocamidopropyl
Hydroxysultaine, PEG 150 Distearate, PEG 3 Dioleylamidoethylmonium
Methosulfate, Trimethylsiloxyamodimethicone, C11 15 Pareth 7, C12 16
Pareth 9, Glycerin, Trideceth 12, Polyquaternium 10, Triethyl Citrate,
Bisamino PEG/PPG 41/3 Aminoethyl PG Propyl Dimethicone, Algae/Aloe
Barbadensis Leaf/Anthemis Nobilis/Lawsonia Inermis, Simmondsia
Chinensis (Jojoba), Rosmarinus Officinalis (Rosemary), PEG 12
Dimethicone, Fragrance (Parfum), Citric Acid, Sodium Chloride,
Tetrasodium EDTA, DMDM Hydantoin, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate

The above is the ingredients list for your favorite hair care product.  It contains aminoethyl PG-propyl dimethicone, which is a silicone.  You’re putting the same shit in your hair as people that use pantene, just an FYI. 

@algebraicdisco@xanga - its the wax. But thats okay. I don’t think silicone is the worst thing.

Honestly, there are a million products out there to compensate for the ones we use that do the damage. Silicone isn’t the enemy. That wasn’t my point. A wax coating is. Silicone goes away, wax builds up in layers over time.

I could go dig out my cosmo books, but to be honesty, its a moot point and I’m too lazy. Your hair, or anyone elses for that matter, is not my problem.

@The_Tudor_Rose@xanga - It doesn’t coat your hair in wax, it doesn’t contain wax.  It has a lot of conditioning ingredients that may weigh some people’s hair down, but wax isn’t in the ingredients list.  It doesn’t deposit wax.  Seriously, it’s perfectly safe, the only reason it causes build up in anyone’s hair is if they’re not washing it all out or if the product is just too heavy for their hair.  The shampoo and conditioner are meant to work together and wash out any conditioning ingredients that were left behind in your last shower. 

@algebraicdisco@xanga -  Products do different things for your hair. Panteen is bad for getting color to stick to your hair, Bed Head will strip the color. The only reason I know is because this is what I worked with. I used bedhead to strip the black from my hair over time. Believe it or not, your stylist knows what she is talking about, unless she suggests bedhead color care… Even the slightest amount of tweaking with a shampoo or conditioner’s composition can make a huge difference in what the product actually does.

IF you don’t color your hair, panteen is probably fine, but I would NEVER suggest it as a shampoo or conditioner. I do however love their hairspray.

I’ve been using Pantene for years. My hair’s perfectly fine.

@The_Tudor_Rose@xanga - Water, Stearyl Alcohol, Cyclopentasiloxane, Cetyl Alcohol,
Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine, Glutamic Acid, Dimethicone, Benzyl
Alcohol, Fragrance, Panthenyl Ethyl Ether, EDTA, Panthenol,
Methylchloroisothiazolinone, Methylisothiazolinone

The ingredients for pantene smooth-n-sleek conditioner.  A break down of the ingredients for you and everyone else.

water – water

stearyl alcohol – alcohol

cyclopentasiloxane – silicone

cetyl alcohol – fatty alcohol

stearamidopropyl dimethylamine – detergent

glutamic acid – amino acid

dimethicone – silicone

benzyl alcohol – alcohol

fragrance – fragrance

panthenyl ethyl ether – conditioning agent

EDTA – polyamino acid

panthenol – alcohol

Methylchloroisothiazolinone – preservative

Methylisothiazolinone – preservative

There is nothing in pantene that would coat my or anyone else’s hair in something that would cause the cuticle to not take-in color.  If anything, harsher ingredients would cause porous hair and make it absorb more color, not less.  I’ve been coloring my hair red for years and use pantene on occasion, it works fine, but the fragrance isn’t my taste. 

and shampoos, especially clarifying shampoos will fade your haircolor, all of them except shampoos that contain color pigments to deposit a little extra color with every shampoo. 

i don’t remember why they are bad but eff shampoo. wen cleansing conditioner is the only way to go. 

Does anyone have a great solution out there for hair that tends to be frizzy?? i have a ton of hair (lots of volume), I’m going to try Sleek from Matrix, I had been using Paul Mitchell Tea Tree Moisturizing but damn that’s expensive…

@jms2508@xanga - organix. (not organics, but organix… with an X. they’re two totally different hair companies). all their products, including their styling products, are silicon- sulfate- and paraben-free. they have stuff for just about any hair type. during the winter months, i use the moisturizing coconut oil line and during the warmer months i use the pomegranate/ green tea line to build up shine and strength. my hair is sooo healthy now.

@evangeliaaa@xanga - thanks for the suggestion. i saw they sell it at stores like target, walmart, cvs, etc. so its better to use shampoos/conditioners with no silicone, sulfate?

I have a lot of trouble with shampoos, but I’ve usually had good results with Pantene. Is there a difference between different Pantene varieties?

i HATE PANTENE everytime i use it my hair falls out. its gross. it always leaves me with dandruff and it drys my ends up. I perfer Garnier Frutis the new line with the avocado oil. I know garnier test on animals, and i am truly sorry and i hate to hear that, but its the only stuff that gives me good results.

I wish my hair was as long as hers!

I read this the other day in webmd and I need to switch shampoos. Silicone is recommended for ur hair. 

http://www.webmd.com/healthy-beauty/ss/slideshow-best-kept-hair-secrets

Silicone is bad for your hair because it coats the individual strands of the hair and stops your natural oils from conditioning your hair. In other words, it makes your hair look healthy, but really, it isn’t. It’s like wearing false nails instead of having your own nails as for as I’m concerned.